André Breton - Georges Bataille polemic
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| - | [[André Breton]], being the driving force behind [[surrealism]], ran the movement in a dictatorial style, even expelling several of its members in the [[Second Surrealist Manifesto]] in 1929. Some of these 'surrealist heretics' started contributing to [[Georges Bataille]]'s journal ''[[Documents (journal)|Documents]]''. | + | [[André Breton]] was the driving force behind [[surrealism]] and he ran the movement in a [[dictatorial]] style, even expelling several of its members in the [[The Second Manifesto of Surrealism]] in 1929. Some of these 'surrealist heretics' started contributing to [[Georges Bataille]]'s journal ''[[Documents (magazine)|Documents]]''. |
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| Most sources state that Breton called Bataille an "excrement-philosopher" (philosophe-excrément) in the [[Second Surrealist Manifesto]], but in reality these words are nowhere to be found in that text. In the words of Breton, Bataille is presented as a "sick person" who suffers from a "déficit conscient à forme généralisatrice", a sufferer of "[[psychasthenia]]" who expresses himself with delight in a vocabulary of the "befouled, senile, rancid, sordid, lewd [and] doddering" ("souillé, sénile, rance, sordide, égrillard, gâteux"): | Most sources state that Breton called Bataille an "excrement-philosopher" (philosophe-excrément) in the [[Second Surrealist Manifesto]], but in reality these words are nowhere to be found in that text. In the words of Breton, Bataille is presented as a "sick person" who suffers from a "déficit conscient à forme généralisatrice", a sufferer of "[[psychasthenia]]" who expresses himself with delight in a vocabulary of the "befouled, senile, rancid, sordid, lewd [and] doddering" ("souillé, sénile, rance, sordide, égrillard, gâteux"): | ||
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| :"M. Bataille fait profession de ne vouloir considérer au monde que ce qu’il y a de plus vil, de plus décourageant et de plus corrompu". | :"M. Bataille fait profession de ne vouloir considérer au monde que ce qu’il y a de plus vil, de plus décourageant et de plus corrompu". | ||
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| - | :"M. Bataille fait profession de ne vouloir considérer au monde que ce qu’il y a de plus vil, de plus décourageant et de plus corrompu et il invite l’homme, pour éviter de se rendre utile à quoi que ce soit de déterminé, «à courir absurdement avec lui - les yeux tout à coup devenus troubles et chargés d’inavouables larmes -vers quelques provinciales maisons hantées, plus vilaines que des mouches, plus vicieuses, plus rances que des salons de coiffure». S’il m’arrive de rapporter de tels propos, c’est qu’ils ne me paraissent pas engager seulement M. Bataille mais encore ceux des anciens surréalistes qui ont voulu avoir leurs coudées libres pour se commettre un peu partout. Peut-être M. Bataille est-il de force à les grouper et qu’il y parvienne, à mon sens, sera très intéressant. Prenant le départ pour la course que, nous venons de le voir, M. Bataille organise, il y a déjà: MM. Desnos, Leiris, Limbour, Masson et Vitrac: on ne s’explique pas que M. Ribemont-Dessaignes, par exemple, ne soit pas encore là." | ||
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| *English translation ''[[Georges Bataille: An Intellectual Biography]] | *English translation ''[[Georges Bataille: An Intellectual Biography]] | ||
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André Breton was the driving force behind surrealism and he ran the movement in a dictatorial style, even expelling several of its members in the The Second Manifesto of Surrealism in 1929. Some of these 'surrealist heretics' started contributing to Georges Bataille's journal Documents.
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Breton calling Bataille an "excrement-philosopher"
Most sources state that Breton called Bataille an "excrement-philosopher" (philosophe-excrément) in the Second Surrealist Manifesto, but in reality these words are nowhere to be found in that text. In the words of Breton, Bataille is presented as a "sick person" who suffers from a "déficit conscient à forme généralisatrice", a sufferer of "psychasthenia" who expresses himself with delight in a vocabulary of the "befouled, senile, rancid, sordid, lewd [and] doddering" ("souillé, sénile, rance, sordide, égrillard, gâteux"):
- Il est à remarquer que M. Bataille fait un abus délirant des adjectifs : souillé, sénile, rance, sordide, égrillard, gâteux, et que ces mots, loin de lui servir à décrier un état de choses insupportable, sont ceux par lesquels s’exprime le plus lyriquement sa délectation.
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Georges Bataille as "wishes only to consider in the world that which is vilest, most discouraging, and most corrupted"
In his Second Surrealist Manifesto of 1929 André Breton derided Georges Bataille as "(professing) to wish only to consider in the world that which is vilest, most discouraging, and most corrupted."
- "M. Bataille fait profession de ne vouloir considérer au monde que ce qu’il y a de plus vil, de plus décourageant et de plus corrompu".
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See also
- English translation Georges Bataille: An Intellectual Biography
- (professing) to wish only to consider in the world that which is vilest, most discouraging, and most corrupted
- Le lion châtré, (The castrated lion, 1929), a polemic by Georges Bataille against André Breton, published in the pamphlet Un cadavre.
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